tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441037586839214871.post5201435623452581125..comments2024-02-12T08:34:18.666-05:00Comments on The Long Road: Size Discrimination Comes In All SizesCarolynhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05859075229519368228noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441037586839214871.post-40345442651644322082010-10-29T13:58:24.145-04:002010-10-29T13:58:24.145-04:00of course there are reasons we may not protect our...of course there are reasons we may not protect our gene pool from all the "freaky" people. http://www.fotolog.com/breakfast_cereal/53371972Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16713857118487416259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441037586839214871.post-26083269104912163692010-10-29T13:47:13.802-04:002010-10-29T13:47:13.802-04:00This may also be a corolary of the Uncanny Valley ...This may also be a corolary of the Uncanny Valley or Uncanny divide. <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley#Transhumanism<br />Here I am ignoring "technology" reference and substitute sexual cues like makeup or dress style..<br />"cf. body modification), ... So long as these enhancements remain within a perceived norm of human behavior, a negative reaction is unlikely, but once individuals supplant normal human variety, revulsion can be expected.... "pageant retouching" photos, especially of children, which some[32] find disturbingly doll-like."<br />There seems to be an effect from an instinctive level to reject someone who is not a healthy functionally "normal" member of a tribe. People often notice a level of variation at some visceral level and act defensively to reject the outsider. Hence Geeks/Nerds are often rejected because seen as too affected by non-intutive motivations like a poor self-image that is then interpreted as aloofness or lack of interest in "normal activities." Normal is subjective so it's going to be a variable effect.Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16713857118487416259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3441037586839214871.post-88829261755411935942010-10-19T17:32:21.105-04:002010-10-19T17:32:21.105-04:00This is not size discrimination at all. If Bill K...This is not size discrimination at all. If Bill Kaulitz ditched the makeup and grew a beard, none of the same resentment would be there.<br /><br />It's a form of aggravated jealousy. <a href="http://hugoschwyzer.net/2010/08/19/of-never-feeling-hot-the-missing-narrative-of-desire-in-the-lives-of-straight-men-reprinted/" rel="nofollow">Men never feel desirable.</a> The guy who wrote the article I linked won an award as "America's Hottest Professor", but still doesn't feel desirable. The culture says men cannot be desired. If we see a hot man in a commercial, it's comedy. He's guaranteed to be upstaged a few seconds later by butter. If you compliment a man, he doesn't really internalize it. If a woman says something nice about my looks, and I take it in at all, it means to me that she'd like to see me across the table in an expensive restaurant where I'll be picking up the tab, not that she'd like to see me naked in her bed.<br /><br />It's the fault of media culture, not the fault of real women, and it's sad that media culture has so much more influence than what we hear from the real people around us. You already know all about that.<br /><br />But it seems like there's one exception to the rule that men can't be attractive. That's men who look like drag kings. Bill Kaulitz, for example, has none of the physical characteristics associated with growing up with significant levels of androgens; e.g. strong jaw, facial hair, bone growth (broad shoulders), muscle growth. Bill could easily be a woman dressed as a man. Men feel like the only way they can be attractive is by looking like a woman, and resent the hell out of it, and men who can and do take that route to attractiveness get the resentment poured onto them.Charlesnoreply@blogger.com